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		<title>Comment on midrash by midrash: ordinary radicals &#171; VoxTheology</title>
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		<dc:creator>midrash: ordinary radicals &#171; VoxTheology</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on a spider god by dianestranz</title>
		<link>http://voxtheology.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/a-spider-god/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>dianestranz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 14:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not seen this Bergman film, &#039;Winter Light&#039; and am intrigued now to watch it, to see what story unfolds.  I am curious, though, as to your purpose in posting the quote:  did you want to share it simply because you find it thought-provoking?  Surely you did not mean to imply that the &#039;spider god&#039; is a representation of the One True God, the Abba of Jesus Christ . . . because it is not, at all, I assure you!

By the end of the passage it becomes clear the speaker has never encountered the One True God (the Yahweh of the Israelites, the author and Creator of all reality) and has, instead, devoted himself to &#039;relationship&#039; with a false spirit, a Pretender . . . such that when he finally secures his freedom, it is a freedom FROM illusion, dreams and lies.  This is a wonderful and healthy first step AWAY from spiritual slavery, but it is certainly not the ultimate personal, individual freedom God intends.

So, the real question is:  will the speaker slip into a form of agnostic/atheistic despair as a result of the disillusionment caused him by his false god, or will he finally humble himself before God and permit Him to slowly and gradually reveal Himself (His nature, His being, His personality, His will)?  To paraphrase the beautiful Friedrich Schlegel quote you cite elsewhere on this blog, will knowledge emerge out of this man&#039;s disturbance and doubt?  I am curious as to whether the film&#039;s story answers that question.

Peace.

Diane Stranz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen this Bergman film, &#8216;Winter Light&#8217; and am intrigued now to watch it, to see what story unfolds.  I am curious, though, as to your purpose in posting the quote:  did you want to share it simply because you find it thought-provoking?  Surely you did not mean to imply that the &#8217;spider god&#8217; is a representation of the One True God, the Abba of Jesus Christ . . . because it is not, at all, I assure you!</p>
<p>By the end of the passage it becomes clear the speaker has never encountered the One True God (the Yahweh of the Israelites, the author and Creator of all reality) and has, instead, devoted himself to &#8216;relationship&#8217; with a false spirit, a Pretender . . . such that when he finally secures his freedom, it is a freedom FROM illusion, dreams and lies.  This is a wonderful and healthy first step AWAY from spiritual slavery, but it is certainly not the ultimate personal, individual freedom God intends.</p>
<p>So, the real question is:  will the speaker slip into a form of agnostic/atheistic despair as a result of the disillusionment caused him by his false god, or will he finally humble himself before God and permit Him to slowly and gradually reveal Himself (His nature, His being, His personality, His will)?  To paraphrase the beautiful Friedrich Schlegel quote you cite elsewhere on this blog, will knowledge emerge out of this man&#8217;s disturbance and doubt?  I am curious as to whether the film&#8217;s story answers that question.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>Diane Stranz</p>
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		<title>Comment on Holy Saturday TheologyPub by david b. clark</title>
		<link>http://voxtheology.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/holy-saturday-theologypub/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>david b. clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is actually three different icons that I stitched together using HP Photosmart Studio. No painting of mine involved. Thank you for the compliment, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually three different icons that I stitched together using HP Photosmart Studio. No painting of mine involved. Thank you for the compliment, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Holy Saturday TheologyPub by mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the banner at your site, did you paint it?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Reconciliation in Gran Torino by Rustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great one, David.  I thought Gran Torino was a great exploration of &#039;otherness&#039; and forgiveness.  Maybe we can chat about it tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great one, David.  I thought Gran Torino was a great exploration of &#8216;otherness&#8217; and forgiveness.  Maybe we can chat about it tonight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on . . gathering 11.7.08 . . by Theology Pub Tonight! &#171; rustinS myth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theology Pub Tonight! &#171; rustinS myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pub&#160;Tonight!  Posted on November 7, 2008 by Rustin   Have a look, my good peoples.  I&#8217;ll be [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on bookshelf by . . gathering 11.7.08 . . &#171; VoxDei :: TheologyPub</title>
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		<dc:creator>. . gathering 11.7.08 . . &#171; VoxDei :: TheologyPub</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] out the reading list for further study on this topic if you [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on bookshelf by The Dancing God: thoughts on the Trinity &#171; VoxDei :: TheologyPub</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dancing God: thoughts on the Trinity &#171; VoxDei :: TheologyPub</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on voices: friedrich nietzsche by Rustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rustin</dc:creator>
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		<description>And of course I meant &#039;summary&#039; and not &#039;summery&#039; - even though I like summery weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course I meant &#8217;summary&#8217; and not &#8217;summery&#8217; &#8211; even though I like summery weather.</p>
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		<title>Comment on voices: friedrich nietzsche by Rustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rustin</dc:creator>
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		<description>If you all want to read more about Moltmann, the late great Stan Grenz has a fairly accessible summery in his book &quot;&lt;a title=&quot;Rediscovering the Triune God&quot; href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=VuX0zwJuDtUC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=rediscovering+the+triune+God&amp;ei=9A_CSPOKGKOQjgGjqPzrDQ&amp;sig=ACfU3U1WxJhQ1nQDHasXsOijOxbbxfg2Mg#PPA73,M1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rediscovering the Triune God&lt;/a&gt;&quot; - check out page 83-84(ish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you all want to read more about Moltmann, the late great Stan Grenz has a fairly accessible summery in his book &#8220;<a title="Rediscovering the Triune God" href="http://books.google.com/books?id=VuX0zwJuDtUC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=rediscovering+the+triune+God&amp;ei=9A_CSPOKGKOQjgGjqPzrDQ&amp;sig=ACfU3U1WxJhQ1nQDHasXsOijOxbbxfg2Mg#PPA73,M1" rel="nofollow">Rediscovering the Triune God</a>&#8221; &#8211; check out page 83-84(ish).</p>
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